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		<title>By: knightopia 3.0 &#124; knightopia.com &#124; lifestreaming kingdom journalist Steve Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>knightopia 3.0 &#124; knightopia.com &#124; lifestreaming kingdom journalist Steve Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my american political agenda is not represented by a politician; but you apparently are represented by a candidate this year. my point was more about kingdoms than american political agendas. as Christ followers, you and i both have a roll to play in elections. i have (personally) found it to be useless to tie my american political agenda into the gospel of the Kingdom.

p.s. i wasn&#039;t ripping on facebook, i was ripping on myself and hoping to represent folks like me who don&#039;t jump in very fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my american political agenda is not represented by a politician; but you apparently are represented by a candidate this year. my point was more about kingdoms than american political agendas. as Christ followers, you and i both have a roll to play in elections. i have (personally) found it to be useless to tie my american political agenda into the gospel of the Kingdom.</p>
<p>p.s. i wasn&#8217;t ripping on facebook, i was ripping on myself and hoping to represent folks like me who don&#8217;t jump in very fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Dan, I still value your friendship and feedback -- even though you&#039;re not on Facebook. You know your wife and I are friends on Facebook, though, right?  ;-)

I&#039;d love to hear about your &quot;different american political agenda&quot; sometime. Or what you think the one is that I&#039;ve &quot;completely connected&quot; myself to. Because I agree that no political party is &quot;God&#039;s own party.&quot; I&#039;m just planning to vote for a Democrat this year. That doesn&#039;t make me a Democrat, IMO. I&#039;m actually registered independent, and that&#039;s what I intend to remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Dan, I still value your friendship and feedback &#8212; even though you&#8217;re not on Facebook. You know your wife and I are friends on Facebook, though, right?  <img src='http://knightopia.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear about your &#8220;different american political agenda&#8221; sometime. Or what you think the one is that I&#8217;ve &#8220;completely connected&#8221; myself to. Because I agree that no political party is &#8220;God&#8217;s own party.&#8221; I&#8217;m just planning to vote for a Democrat this year. That doesn&#8217;t make me a Democrat, IMO. I&#8217;m actually registered independent, and that&#8217;s what I intend to remain.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>politics, shmalitics

radio, shmadio.

i&#039;m not on facebook, so i&#039;m out of your loop now. nonetheless,  i&#039;m still here; with an identity and email address for any response.

please tell me, how many kingdoms has our Saviour asked us to &quot;fight&quot; for?

i support a different american political agenda than the one you so completely connected yourself to this year.

truth be told, on the &quot;right&quot; side of the american political spectrum, republicans are hopefully learning that the GOP isn&#039;t &quot;God&#039;s Own Party&quot;.

do you know that no human party is God&#039;s big party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>politics, shmalitics</p>
<p>radio, shmadio.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not on facebook, so i&#8217;m out of your loop now. nonetheless,  i&#8217;m still here; with an identity and email address for any response.</p>
<p>please tell me, how many kingdoms has our Saviour asked us to &#8220;fight&#8221; for?</p>
<p>i support a different american political agenda than the one you so completely connected yourself to this year.</p>
<p>truth be told, on the &#8220;right&#8221; side of the american political spectrum, republicans are hopefully learning that the GOP isn&#8217;t &#8220;God&#8217;s Own Party&#8221;.</p>
<p>do you know that no human party is God&#8217;s big party?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I&#039;d STRONGLY suggest you do a little more research about factcheck.org before you use it as your source of authority.  You might as well be citing MoveOn.org as well.   :)

But again...  Isn&#039;t it interesting that Obama distances himself from these dirtballs only AFTER it becomes politically expedient to do so?

And what about Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines?  Are you still trying to summarily dismiss their hand-in-hand association with Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I&#8217;d STRONGLY suggest you do a little more research about factcheck.org before you use it as your source of authority.  You might as well be citing MoveOn.org as well.   <img src='http://knightopia.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But again&#8230;  Isn&#8217;t it interesting that Obama distances himself from these dirtballs only AFTER it becomes politically expedient to do so?</p>
<p>And what about Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines?  Are you still trying to summarily dismiss their hand-in-hand association with Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, looks like you&#039;ve been Googling fast and furious -- and it only took you a couple days to come up with Ayers, Rezko, and Rashid Khaladi (never heard of him).

Here&#039;s my response:

William Ayers -- &quot;Attempting to discredit Obama because of an association with unsavory people rather than with actual proof that Obama shares their views is an instance of a logical fallacy that philosophers call guilt-by-association.&quot;
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

Tony Rezko -- &quot;Obama did have a past relationship with real estate developer Tony Rezko, but he is no longer Obama&#039;s &#039;money man.&#039; Obama hasn&#039;t been associated with him since his indictment for wire fraud, bribery, money laundering and attempted extortion, and Obama donated all  of the disgraced businessman&#039;s previous campaign contributions to charity.&quot;
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

Rashid Khaladi -- The only information I could find on this guy and his supposed connections to Obama are all from right-wing smear blogs. There isn&#039;t even a Wikipedia entry on Khaladi! So, ummm, this looks to me like a total smear campaign with absolutely no basis in reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, looks like you&#8217;ve been Googling fast and furious &#8212; and it only took you a couple days to come up with Ayers, Rezko, and Rashid Khaladi (never heard of him).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my response:</p>
<p>William Ayers &#8212; &#8220;Attempting to discredit Obama because of an association with unsavory people rather than with actual proof that Obama shares their views is an instance of a logical fallacy that philosophers call guilt-by-association.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html</a></p>
<p>Tony Rezko &#8212; &#8220;Obama did have a past relationship with real estate developer Tony Rezko, but he is no longer Obama&#8217;s &#8216;money man.&#8217; Obama hasn&#8217;t been associated with him since his indictment for wire fraud, bribery, money laundering and attempted extortion, and Obama donated all  of the disgraced businessman&#8217;s previous campaign contributions to charity.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html</a></p>
<p>Rashid Khaladi &#8212; The only information I could find on this guy and his supposed connections to Obama are all from right-wing smear blogs. There isn&#8217;t even a Wikipedia entry on Khaladi! So, ummm, this looks to me like a total smear campaign with absolutely no basis in reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s also important to note that it was Hillary Clinton&#039;s campaign (not McCain&#039;s) that made such a fuss over Obama&#039;s close association with unrepentant terrorist, William Ayers.

We could also talk about Antoin Rezko, convicted of 16 crimes involving mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and aiding and abetting bribery, who personally donated over $20,000 to Obama&#039;s presidential campaign, and helped raise over $200,000 more.  Obama also bought property from Rezko.

Then there&#039;s Rashid Khaladi - Obama&#039;s good friend, left-wing radical and Obama political fund-raiser - who openly states that &quot;Israel is a racist state bent on creating &quot;an apartheid system.&quot;  Obama now says he disagrees with some of Khaladi&#039;s opinions...

Why does Obama continue to have close ties with these radical individuals, then denounce their philosophies only when it becomes politically expedient to do so?

Obama is not a man who would lead by principle, but by public opinion polls.  And it is beginning to look more and more like he&#039;s actually a wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s also important to note that it was Hillary Clinton&#8217;s campaign (not McCain&#8217;s) that made such a fuss over Obama&#8217;s close association with unrepentant terrorist, William Ayers.</p>
<p>We could also talk about Antoin Rezko, convicted of 16 crimes involving mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and aiding and abetting bribery, who personally donated over $20,000 to Obama&#8217;s presidential campaign, and helped raise over $200,000 more.  Obama also bought property from Rezko.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s Rashid Khaladi &#8211; Obama&#8217;s good friend, left-wing radical and Obama political fund-raiser &#8211; who openly states that &#8220;Israel is a racist state bent on creating &#8220;an apartheid system.&#8221;  Obama now says he disagrees with some of Khaladi&#8217;s opinions&#8230;</p>
<p>Why does Obama continue to have close ties with these radical individuals, then denounce their philosophies only when it becomes politically expedient to do so?</p>
<p>Obama is not a man who would lead by principle, but by public opinion polls.  And it is beginning to look more and more like he&#8217;s actually a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to more sinister associations...

How about Barack&#039;s association with, and financial windfalls, from the CEOs &amp; lobbyists of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?  Seems that Obama has received over $126,000 from those folks.  Does the name Jim Johnson ring a bell?  How about Franklin Raines?  Are we to suppose that these Obama advisors did NOT pocket tens of millions of dollars, while Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac were bilking the public?

It will be interesting to watch the indictments come, as more and more of the shenanigans of these Obama advisors are brought to justice.  But, considering that nearly 90% of the mainstream media are registered Democrats, I doubt we&#039;ll hear much about it on the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to more sinister associations&#8230;</p>
<p>How about Barack&#8217;s association with, and financial windfalls, from the CEOs &amp; lobbyists of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?  Seems that Obama has received over $126,000 from those folks.  Does the name Jim Johnson ring a bell?  How about Franklin Raines?  Are we to suppose that these Obama advisors did NOT pocket tens of millions of dollars, while Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac were bilking the public?</p>
<p>It will be interesting to watch the indictments come, as more and more of the shenanigans of these Obama advisors are brought to justice.  But, considering that nearly 90% of the mainstream media are registered Democrats, I doubt we&#8217;ll hear much about it on the news.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, why are you labeling me as &quot;willfully ignorant&quot; here?  Are you implying that, because I&#039;m not an Obama fan, I&#039;m ignorant and/or a racist?  I&#039;d strongly suggest that, before you say things like that, you know a little more about the person you&#039;re making those accusations towards...

Now, I noticed that you completely failed to explain away Obama&#039;s choice to withdraw his membership from Jeremiah Wright&#039;s church - and to do so ONLY after it became politically expedient to do so.

If Barack had a problem with being part of a church where the pastor is openly racist, and is committed first and foremost to Africa, why did he not withdraw his membership earlier?  This isn&#039;t Black Liberation Theology, Steve.  This is racism.  Open, unabashed racism.

On the other hand, if Barack is in full support of the mission and focus of his church, why did he withdraw his membership after it became politically expedient to do so?  That sounds to me like a guy whose convictions are based primarily on public opinion polls.  Either way, it shows Barack to be duplicitous and popularity driven.  In other words, another Bill Clinton...


6 months ago, I very much wanted to be able to fully support Obama.  The symbolism alone - that of an educated, qualified black man as a legitimate candidate for the presidency - was inspiring.  But then I started listening to what he was saying when the tele-prompter was turned off.  I started researching his positions and opinions.  I started looking at his public service record.  I have to say, I would have picked Hillary of Barack a hundred times over.

And that doesn&#039;t even begin to touch on the issue of abortion, and the fact that Barack Obama is the single most aggressively pro-abortion presidential candidate to ever be on a major party ticket.  He receives a 100% pro-abortion rating from both Planned Parenthood and NARAL.  That alone should send chills up the spine of any Christian.

People who don&#039;t support Obama are NOT - as you say -  willfully ignorant people and/or racists.  It could just be that we&#039;ve forced ourselves to look beyond race, charisma and ear-tickling sound-bytes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, why are you labeling me as &#8220;willfully ignorant&#8221; here?  Are you implying that, because I&#8217;m not an Obama fan, I&#8217;m ignorant and/or a racist?  I&#8217;d strongly suggest that, before you say things like that, you know a little more about the person you&#8217;re making those accusations towards&#8230;</p>
<p>Now, I noticed that you completely failed to explain away Obama&#8217;s choice to withdraw his membership from Jeremiah Wright&#8217;s church &#8211; and to do so ONLY after it became politically expedient to do so.</p>
<p>If Barack had a problem with being part of a church where the pastor is openly racist, and is committed first and foremost to Africa, why did he not withdraw his membership earlier?  This isn&#8217;t Black Liberation Theology, Steve.  This is racism.  Open, unabashed racism.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if Barack is in full support of the mission and focus of his church, why did he withdraw his membership after it became politically expedient to do so?  That sounds to me like a guy whose convictions are based primarily on public opinion polls.  Either way, it shows Barack to be duplicitous and popularity driven.  In other words, another Bill Clinton&#8230;</p>
<p>6 months ago, I very much wanted to be able to fully support Obama.  The symbolism alone &#8211; that of an educated, qualified black man as a legitimate candidate for the presidency &#8211; was inspiring.  But then I started listening to what he was saying when the tele-prompter was turned off.  I started researching his positions and opinions.  I started looking at his public service record.  I have to say, I would have picked Hillary of Barack a hundred times over.</p>
<p>And that doesn&#8217;t even begin to touch on the issue of abortion, and the fact that Barack Obama is the single most aggressively pro-abortion presidential candidate to ever be on a major party ticket.  He receives a 100% pro-abortion rating from both Planned Parenthood and NARAL.  That alone should send chills up the spine of any Christian.</p>
<p>People who don&#8217;t support Obama are NOT &#8211; as you say &#8211;  willfully ignorant people and/or racists.  It could just be that we&#8217;ve forced ourselves to look beyond race, charisma and ear-tickling sound-bytes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racism is racism Steve.  Period.  Let&#039;s stop making excuses for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racism is racism Steve.  Period.  Let&#8217;s stop making excuses for it.</p>
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