Campaign To Nowhere

 

Sorry, I couldn’t resist:

Come on, America! Adopt the slogan: Thanks, But No Thanks!

 

 

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Posted on 09-10-2008

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  1. MT says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

    Now you’ve gone from being pro Obama to anti McCain?
    :-)

  2. Steve K. says:

    September 10th, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    I’m still pro-Obama. I’ve just added anti-McCain, after losing all respect for him following viewing his last few TV ads smearing Obama Karl Rove-style. I had respect for McCain, but it’s all dried up and there’s no hope drilling for more respect, I’m afraid ;-)

  3. dave says:

    September 13th, 2008 at 6:21 pm

    “it’s all dried up and there’s no hope drilling for more”

    Well played, sir. Well played.

  4. Jeff says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 8:06 am

    So Palin backed it initially, then – after learning more about it – decided to back away?

    Wow, sounds scandalous to me!

  5. Steve K. says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 8:15 am

    Jeff, let me perfectly clear: the scandal isn’t really that she changed her mind about supporting the “Bridge to Nowhere” — the scandal is that she keeps repeating this campaign line about telling Congress “Thanks, but no thanks” when every watchdog/fact-check group in the country agrees this is a half-truth at best because Alaska did get all of the money that had been previously earmarked for the bridge. So to say “no thanks” would imply that she never took the money, which she did. It’s a catchy campaign slogan, but it’s just not true. Thus my re-appropriation of the phrase “Thanks, but no thanks” in my opposition to McCain-Palin. ;-)

  6. Jeff says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 11:41 am

    I guess I thought of her as referring to the bridge itself, in saying, “Thanks but no thanks.” I listened to her speech, and I did not hear her say anything about the money, but about the bridge.

    But, let’s assume the negative about Palin here (seriously). Let’s assume she intentionally misled people. Then I wonder how her little “untrue implication” compares with Joe Biden’s claim that his helicopter was “forced down” in Afghanistan? What did Biden’s statement lead people to believe?

    We definitely are in the middle of a campaign season, aren’t we?

  7. Steve K. says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Jeff, keep in mind the context of Palin’s “Thanks, but no thanks” line in the campaign stump speech: This came repeatedly in the midst of claims that government earmarks are bad and that McCain-Palin are going to be the “reformers” who change that horrible corrupt system. So the statement is made in the midst of talking about whether earmarked money is going to states via these earmarks (or not). And the money did go to Alaska. It wasn’t spent on a bridge, but she never said “no thanks” to the money. Very very misleading at the very least.

    I don’t know anything about the Joe Biden helicopter story to be able to comment, but I’ll look it up. Thanks.

  8. Jeff says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    As I earlier said, Steve, we are in the middle of a campaign season. Do we really expect bare naked truth?

    It’s kind of like Obama saying that he’s going to “create 5 million green collar jobs” over the next 10 years. It sounds really good, kind of like “Thanks, but no thanks”, but when you start looking at it closely, you find that it’s philosophically sound, but practically fallacious.

    Even so, we’re in the middle of a campaign season. Everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

  9. Jeff says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Out of curiosity – and since it’s addressed nowhere else in your blog – and since this thread has turned into a VP bash…

    Do you think Obama’s choice of Biden as VP running mate was a good or bad move?

    Personally, I think Biden was one of the worst choices Obama could have made. Obama’s campaign slogan has, as you know, been “Change you can believe in.” But then he goes and picks one of most greasy, consummate Washington insiders, as his running mate.

    I am also of the opinion that the two VP picks are what will be the primary reason for McCain being our next President.

    For whatever reason, the Palin appointment has brought out the crazy passion in the Republicans, and the frothing hatred in the Democrats. Very interesting indeed…

  10. Steve K. says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Jeff, I don’t expect the campaigns to give us “bare naked truth,” but I do expect people who claim to follow the Truth (Jesus Christ) to care about a bit more when their chosen candidate bends it so far out of whack that it becomes deception and/or lies. That’s really my bigger frustration in this whole discussion.

    But anyway, how do I feel about Biden? He wasn’t my first choice, but John Edwards disqualified himself with his moral failure and Bill Richardson was just too hot a potato (a black AND a Hispanic on the ticket?! oh heavens, no!). Che sera sera. I think Biden is a solid, safe choice, a guy with experience who balances Obama’s freshness and and who is in tune with the change message, and I certainly don’t think it’s going to cost Obama the election.

    The Palin mania is already fading. A few more weeks of news stories about Palin — like the one about how, as mayor, she forced rape victims to pay for their own examinations — and the American people will know all that they need to know about Palin. And if her performance in the upcoming debates is anything like the Charlie Gibson interview, I think Biden will come out the winner, and Palin’s star will fade even further. Those are my predictions anyway (and obviously what I hope will be the case).

  11. Jeff says:

    September 23rd, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Interesting opinions. Thanks!

    By the way, I am NOT dismissing the need for truth-telling. I’m saying that we are in a political campaign season. You can expect stories that favor the candidate (like Biden’s claim that his helicopter was “forced down” in Afghanistan).

    And though I know you want badly for Palin’s star to fade, I don’t see that happening. In fact, I’ve read recently that she has drawn crowds of 60,000+ during her campaign stops.

    I also have a feeling she’s going to mop up the place with Biden, during the debate. Remember, there’s a double-standard here: Guys can’t punch girls in the face. Palin can rip into Biden, but he has to be very careful how he responds.

  12. son_of_liberty says:

    September 29th, 2008 at 8:56 pm

    Hello everyone!

    Today the American people won a great victory. We called and called again, We emailed and emailed again. Well, we were heard and, even though 205 congressmen thought that didn’t matter, 228 of them did. Having said that, I maintain no illusions that if this bill would have had more (or less) pork in it, that it would not have passed anyway. What I mean is, very probably, it did not go this way because the politicians actually see, or care, how this fundamentally goes against everything America stands for (you remember America, right?). But there is no doubt that at least some of them said no because we the people spoke up. That means the Republic is hanging on… by a thread – we must not let it go… if we do, we will never get it back.

    With all that in mind, it is imperative that we do not turn our backs on the legislative body right now. Continue in the effort to communicate with those who are supposed to represent us. But even more importantly, PLEASE continue to educate yourselves about over spending (this includes seriously looking at your personal fiscal condition); responsible, limited constitutional government; monetary policy; and inflation. We can restore belief in the individual’s ability to take care of themselves without asking to be coddled by big government. This always requires giving up liberties. It is our liberties (and the resolve to reject those who would steal them through fear and manipulation) which define us as Americans – not our geographic position (that idea is silly when you say it out loud, isn’t it?). This is what we were founded on, do not lose that vision. Ever.

    I would exhort each of you to prepare as best as you can for any oncoming financial exposure you may experience in the sort term. But more importantly, commit to taking care of your families, friends and neighbors. I mean in real ways – feed them, clothe them, listen to them and cherish them.

    The market will rebound and prices will adjust. Do not fall victim to the fear mongering of the power elite who want to attempt to repair the damage they did with even more regulation. The flux in the market will be like ripping off a band aid: it will hurt, but it is better to get it over with. Does it make any sense to give these crooks a bigger first aid kit? Much like the human body does, the market will heal on its own.

    To continue the metaphor, addressing symptoms without addressing the cause is quite a bit like trying to heal a gunshot wound with gauze. That cause is the Federal Reserve’s system of easy credit and regulatory catastrophes like the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, which is used to tell banks that they can be fined substantially for NOT granting mortgages to high risk clients. And yet there will still be those who suggest that the crisis was begun by allowing too much deregulation. Look into this stuff and find out for yourself – I promise, its not that hard.

    Here is a link to every one who voted for and against this bill (plus the one douche who decided not to vote at all – unbelievable):
    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml

    Now here is the link to find out who represents you in your district:
    http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

    Call them and tell them either “thank you for having a backbone” or “start looking for another job. I hear McDonalds in hiring”. Me and mine aim to remove ALL those who voted yes to this blatant attack on our liberties and our dollar. I called every representative in my state urging them to review HR 2755, The Federal Reserve Abolition Act of 2007 and to come out in support of it with co-sponsorship. This legislation addresses the real problem with no band aids. Read it. It is less than a page long folks. Consider what Thomas Jefferson said about it:

    “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
    - Thomas Jefferson

    Folks, that is what is happening. It is not a joke, it is not a “conspiracy theory” – Its actually true.

    If you do not know what inflation actually is (I bet most do not – no dig – it has just been lied about for sooooo long), spend some time over at Critically Honest to read about it.

    In Christ and in Liberty,

    son_of_liberty

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